Subject	No, they're just uglier, cheaper and made for morons
Posted by	Jack B. on December 10, 2002 at 11:10 PM
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In Reply To	Are Konig Villains better than HRE's because they R lighter? (n/m) posted by TTony on December 10, 2002 at 10:46 PM
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Follow Ups	Hiper VS. B & B........Controversy settled - J-Z91(OH) 17:12:54 12/10/02 it comes down to personal visual preference. (n/m) - niXit 17:14:04 12/10/02 ....and 10RWHP apparently :P (n/m) - Furious(Houston) 17:16:02 12/10/02 ....and money. (n/m) - ZHOUND 19:14:00 12/10/02 exactly, niXit (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 17:40:43 12/10/02 Yah most def - chaaarmndr 17:16:57 12/10/02 I have an HKS Turbo exhaust, which is fine for me, but.. - Zeus 17:25:32 12/10/02 Holy crap! That much?! Was that the 2.5" or the 3" B&B? (n/m) - John(Houston) 17:26:08 12/10/02 Thats what I was wondering too... (n/m) - TARGETZ 17:35:27 12/10/02 It was the 2.5" B & B but I really don't think 3" would have - J-Z91(OH) 17:59:48 12/10/02 Edit above: 1.5 liter, not "cylinder" (n/m) - J-Z91(OH) 18:01:48 12/10/02 Actually ... most high hp Supra's have 3.5in exhaust - DamonH 90TT 18:16:04 12/10/02 fwiw, 6cyl single exh -vs- 6cyl dual exh = not the same. (n/m) - niXit 18:26:33 12/10/02 Thanks. :p I was just correcting his statement. (n/m) - DamonH 90TT 20:43:47 12/10/02 Re: That's not dual exhaust, thats a single exhaust set-up.> - GqRaCeRx 18:56:25 12/10/02 Thanks for explaining that to me. ;) - DamonH 90TT 20:46:13 12/10/02 but then it isnt a fair comparison then is it. - TARGETZ 18:19:01 12/10/02 Nope. 65mm or 2.55". Pretty much the same. (n/m) - John(Houston) 00:31:08 12/11/02 it is with a turbo.. (n/m) - bfastrblast 20:25:34 12/10/02 Not surprised really (n/m) - U ZCREAM (Vice City) 17:28:59 12/10/02 I'll take my B&B for the street and make a ghettofabulous >> - Spooled 17:30:27 12/10/02 Hell, I run that setup on the street! :) (n/m) - Arthur 17:53:11 12/10/02 think next time you say "get b&B" - cant_z_me(OH) 17:35:49 12/10/02 Sie when was Hiper all stainless? My B&B will out flow it - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 17:47:38 12/10/02 Sie=since (n/m) - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 17:51:33 12/10/02 I think it's so funny that people get bent about "Get B&B" - sbsTT(MD) 17:49:41 12/10/02 Shut yer trap Spee (n/m) - U ZCREAM (Vice City) 18:05:43 12/10/02 You failed research 101 again, from HKSUSA.com - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 17:50:50 12/10/02 bingo (n/m) - sbsTT(MD) 17:53:27 12/10/02 ha...can't you two read? - cant_z_me(OH) 18:00:35 12/10/02 His point, goobersmack, is that HKS is NOT all stainless. (n/m) - ChristopherTheOne 18:06:04 12/10/02 "stainless steel muffler and piping" - cant_z_me(OH) 18:08:18 12/10/02 ...designed.." I read just fine, you? (n/m) - SactoTodd 18:12:17 12/10/02 It's obviously a typo on their behalf - U ZCREAM (Vice City) 18:35:26 12/10/02 umm, thats a little too much info. - sbsTT(MD) 19:42:32 12/10/02 "stainless steel muffler" you idiot "piping designed - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 18:06:11 12/10/02 2nd (n/m) - Zboost 18:11:54 12/10/02 agreed (n/m) - aliaZ 21:39:57 12/10/02 Your a moron... (n/m) - AndrewZ 21:52:54 12/10/02 wrong...... http://hksusa.com/products/?id=715 (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 17:54:57 12/10/02 call HKS and ask. - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 18:08:33 12/10/02 You seem to have a little insecurity about the issue. - DamonH 90TT 17:52:35 12/10/02 my point exactly (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 17:55:30 12/10/02 Iolusive to me..... - Some Dude (Ghetto Z) 17:37:18 12/10/02 Beat me by 2 seconds :P (n/m) - SeedyROM 17:37:48 12/10/02 damn and you beat me by 2 minutes cause I got distracted.;) (n/m) - DamonH 90TT 17:41:29 12/10/02 woohoo! :p (n/m) - Some Dude (Ghetto Z) 17:43:56 12/10/02 err....Inconclusive (n/m) - Some Dude (Ghetto Z) 17:38:07 12/10/02 TO ALL DOUBTERS: the weather in Ohio in the winter is - J-Z91(OH) 17:55:21 12/10/02 While you're probably right, there's more to it than weather - SeedyROM 18:02:21 12/10/02 yeah Seedy, you are correct, there's more than just - J-Z91(OH) 18:07:20 12/10/02 np. (n/m) - SeedyROM 18:09:19 12/10/02 I don't doubt your verdict. (n/m) - Some Dude (Ghetto Z) 18:14:28 12/10/02 I'm sorry but unless dynod back to back it means little 2 me - SeedyROM 17:37:20 12/10/02 only 4 days difference (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 17:38:45 12/10/02 I meant do it on the same day. Conditions change =) - SeedyROM 17:41:24 12/10/02 Totally agree! - Arthur 18:08:15 12/10/02 2nd (n/m) - Woody75 (Denver) 18:53:53 12/10/02 Even with a 5hp differee, I'll keep my B&B. - Dallas DamonZ 18:50:02 12/10/02 bravo *golf clap* (n/m) - sbsTT(MD) 20:11:31 12/10/02 very scientific of you - sebring1970 20:03:46 12/10/02 Well duh, that should go without saying. Read my PROFILE - SeedyROM 20:10:04 12/10/02 not my point - sebring1970 20:27:28 12/10/02 Oh...well the slashes (/) were to differentiate between the - SeedyROM 20:47:00 12/10/02 agreed... plus was that just 1 run each or an avg. of at lea - Bernie 20:43:58 12/10/02 Saturday Temp was a high of 56, Today temp was high of 45. - DamonH 90TT 17:39:51 12/10/02 How does the greddy SP, match up? Since its the best looking (n/m) - Cooltrickz32 17:41:31 12/10/02 Powered by Midas, It will rule all. (n/m) - Miles(SanAntonio,TX) 17:41:35 12/10/02 Posting = Bad ;-(, Polishing = Good ;-) - RegalZ 19:08:11 12/10/02 so all conditions were identical 4 days apart? Great! - sbsTT(MD) 17:43:57 12/10/02 we thank you for your useless remarks..have a nice day :) - cant_z_me(OH) 17:49:43 12/10/02 you really should know what you are talking about... - sbsTT(MD) 18:00:38 12/10/02 liar (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 18:01:37 12/10/02 *sigh* - sbsTT(MD) 18:25:45 12/10/02 oh my f@#$ing ass, who cares, get whatever exhaust you like - Red ZX (SoCal) 18:10:30 12/10/02 This is so funny. - sbsTT(MD) 18:27:40 12/10/02 See my post above.......weather the same......... - J-Z91(OH) 18:11:52 12/10/02 Did the ECU have enough time to learn?? (n/m) - SactoTodd 17:47:01 12/10/02 your ecu will relearn evy'thing after a few nice hard runs. (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 17:52:07 12/10/02 HKS=Best bang for price. So is a Camaro...but I own a Z. - SeedyROM 18:07:48 12/10/02 well said Seedy.... (n/m) - Red ZX (SoCal) 18:11:46 12/10/02 thank you, seedy... :) (n/m) - cant_z_me(OH) 18:12:06 12/10/02 Seedy= Voice of Reason (n/m) - J-Z91(OH) 18:13:16 12/10/02 agreed. (n/m) - Zeus 18:13:16 12/10/02 Controversy settled.... or is it? - niXit 18:13:01 12/10/02 Thanks, Nixit, appreciate the acknowledgement of my - J-Z91(OH) 18:19:38 12/10/02 Sadly, this thread has gotten WAY out of hand. (n/m) - niXit 18:27:18 12/10/02 well.... - (SHOWTIME!) 19:26:56 12/10/02 you are 100% correct. - niXit 19:41:06 12/10/02 That makes see, the most restrictive part is the piping - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 18:21:35 12/10/02 I'm not sure, I'm not debating if it's stainless or not, - J-Z91(OH) 18:25:37 12/10/02 Thanks again, - Chip(GinnMotorsports) 18:51:40 12/10/02 gotta love the ignorant. (n/m) - ForceFedIndustries 21:14:15 12/10/02 I'm really starting to like it more and more. Hiper that is. - JustinZTT-ATL 18:51:05 12/10/02 good grief! - (SHOWTIME!) 19:18:59 12/10/02 you're totally right dude. - sbsTT(MD) 19:59:37 12/10/02 Apology: I din't mean to come across as negative.... - Some Dude (Ghetto Z) 19:50:07 12/10/02 This is stupid...that's STILL not a controlled test and the - Only1Z 19:59:09 12/10/02 P.S. Looks alone put the B&B on top too...there is no - Only1Z 20:01:07 12/10/02 got AIM? - sbsTT(MD) 20:10:15 12/10/02 Yep! Check my e-mail address in my profile. :-) (n/m) - Only1Z 20:50:12 12/10/02 Oh what a surprise coming from a B & B owner. Listen, - J-Z91(OH) 21:17:19 12/10/02 You have not proved anything about conditions... - Only1Z 21:53:41 12/10/02 CORRECTION FACTOR, ever heard of that??? (n/m) - J-Z91(OH) 00:09:43 12/11/02 That's an atmospheric correction. :-) - Only1Z 22:17:37 12/11/02 I dont think one person's Dyno can say that. - ZBlacktt 20:01:47 12/10/02 well doesn't make sense, you admit you changed your - J-Z91(OH) 21:23:23 12/10/02 Oh, I'm defending crap... I wouldn't pay that,,,lol. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 21:54:25 12/10/02 just go back to your inflated dyno and test the B & B - J-Z91(OH) 00:13:14 12/11/02 Your personality sucks man........ lighten up :/ - ZBlacktt 01:11:15 12/11/02 Damn typo-O's....... :( (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:20:48 12/11/02 sorry didn't mean to come off that way, just - J-Z91(OH) 08:34:28 12/11/02 The only people that talk crap about B&B are not B&B owners - Only1Z 22:38:38 12/10/02 Yeah I guess you need a degree in physics to dyno - J-Z91(OH) 00:12:04 12/11/02 They were 4 days apart in a non-controlled environment (n/m) - Only1Z 18:25:34 12/11/02 hks...hks...hks...hks... - Atti2de 20:10:48 12/10/02 STFU biatch! - sbsTT(MD) 20:16:14 12/10/02 BAH. Get Folgers.... (n/m) - 2 Zweet 20:32:49 12/10/02 My opinion of B&B has takena nosedive recently - stupidfast [ ///M Power ] 21:17:27 12/10/02 I figured that would be the case - aliaZ 21:32:06 12/10/02 Are Konig Villains better than HRE's because they R lighter? (n/m) - TTony 22:46:44 12/10/02 No, they're just uglier, cheaper and made for morons - Jack B. 23:10:19 12/10/02 Ever make it back to the track? :) (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:19:09 12/11/02 I doubt it. There's an all you can eat buffet on the way. (n/m) - TTony 09:13:23 12/11/02 roflmao! (n/m) - Arturo C. 10:24:07 12/11/02 Pretty sure that HREs are lighter. :) (n/m) - John(Houston) 01:31:20 12/11/02 Very wrong. (n/m) - TTony 09:10:57 12/11/02 Nope. - John(Houston) 09:53:19 12/11/02 Grrrr.... at least they look better. :-) (n/m) - TTony 19:01:41 12/11/02 get hyper! (n/m) - robbase9 22:52:26 12/10/02 No, HKS doesn't cost enough to make more power - Janders 22:54:55 12/10/02 simple: straight through, here's WHY ppl hate hipper>> - GT300 23:25:48 12/10/02 Huh? People have opinions, not segregating ,, lol. (n/m) - ZBlacktt 01:17:37 12/11/02 WTF? (n/m) - sbsTT(MD) 01:29:14 12/11/02 LOL! Hiper is hipper? (n/m) - John(Houston) 01:30:18 12/11/02 i chose the hipers cuz they are---->> - Bj(CA) 05:26:12 12/11/02 What side are you arguing? (n/m) - Janders 16:19:44 12/11/02 Get Borla (n/m) - 300ZXttAuto 00:38:49 12/11/02 I run the Hipers. - John(Houston) 00:55:05 12/11/02 Thanks for the info Joe - EricTTZ 08:34:40 12/11/02 Yeah. - ZHOUND 15:54:19 12/11/02
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